Who Really Runs Australia?

I see you are busy spreading your unique brand of sunshine and happiness again, Struth. Remind me again how you don't get all maudlin and depressed, then splatter it around all over everybody.

Your comment once again demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of how the party system works in all three of the main players, Liberal, Labor, and National. Yes, all three are corrupt. Yes, all three cheat in the electoral system (it is done right here - not in China). And yes, all three are controlled by a small clique of powerbokers, as established over the last decade by Loughnane, Credlin, Kroger, Textor, Shorten, Pliebersek and others.

However, at the end of the day ultimate control still remains in hands of the majority vote of the MPs of each of these parties. Most of these are deadbeat backbenchers whose sole and abiding aim is to maintain their snouts in the public trough. We witnessed this first hand back in 2015, when, on a Tuesday morning, the entire 30 plus Cabinet signed a letter of solidarity behind Turnbull, and by Thursday afternoon, he was gone.

What happened was, Tuesday afternoon the Liberal and National backbench MPs had a meeting and revolted - NOT out of any concern for this country - but because they feared under Turnbull they would lose the next election, and hence their cushy taxpayer funded lifestyle. So he was replaced.

Now imagine what will happen if next election just a few backbenchers lose their seats on the gravy train because enough people forget about parties, and simply number their sitting member last, regardless of party. Backbenchers from BOTH sides will shit themselves. Publicly the parties will blame each other and claim cheating, and privately they will blame their own hierarchy and threaten to replace them. A right royal dog's breakfast of backstabbing and blame. Who could ask for a more gratifying outcome, first time round?

Fire the Liars. How simple is that to post and spread?

No, it's not an answer, Struth, but it is a possible beginning of an answer. We have to start somewhere. Baby steps. Think about it, and in the meantime, ponder the wisdom of Sir Humphrey.

"The integrity of the election counting is completely decimated. Anyone believing our election process will now save us while the votes are being fed into a Chinese software program and run by the Chinese is optimistic at best........."

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"The recent Qld State Election being first cab off the rank system."

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Jeesus wept. FFS could you guys get off your Chinese "Reds Under The Bed" hobby horse just for a moment and let sanity prevail. For a start, voting is on hard paper ballots, NOT by machine. Counting of votes in elections in Australia, both State and Federal, is done BY HAND. The counting is done by officers appointed by the AEC, and is witnessed by scrutineers who can be nominated by EVERY candidate.

Yes, the system is rife with foul play and corruption. But it is all home grown, and is done by ALL the major parties, and has been going on since Adam was a boy. It is primarily done by by voting in multiple booths.

Next, there was absolutely no need for QLD Labor to employ some secret new method of cheating to win the last State election, the LNP handed it to them on a platter. The week before the election the LNP wrote to voters praising what a great job Morrison was doing destroying the economy, and lamenting that Labor, for all their lockdowns, weren't doing enough. Given that the majority of QLDers outside the metro area think the whole Covid business is a sick joke, why would anyone vote for more of the same from the LNP?

Next, voting informal accomplishes nothing, either way, unless it is done to withhold votes from a specific party, as was the case back when Textor made his "they don't matter" statement about conservative Liberal voters. In all other circumstances it is a totally wasted effort.

A campaign to "Fire The Liars" by putting the sitting member last, regardless of party if they are Liberal, Labor, or National, comes with no guarantees. But two things are certain - First, doing nothing ensures we get more of the same. Second, continually blaming everything on some mythical Chines influence is counterproductive and stupid.

and there are dust mites under my bed so stop your fucking put downs.

I'm not being "bombastic", Struth, I'm expressing extreme bloody frustration!

At the moment all voting in this country is on pieces of paper. Pre-poll votes are on paper. Postal votes are on paper. Voting in polling booths on election day are on paper. All those pieces of paper are then counted at the same time, and candidates can, and do, nominate scrutineers to watch as counting is carried out by employees of the AEC. They count pieces of paper.

Scrutineers sometimes challenge these votes, which are on paper. Sometimes the AEC officer in charge of a booth will allow a recount, which is of the pieces of paper. Sometimes challenges are made in court, and these rely on counting of pieces paper as evidence. Only when all the paper counting is done, all the paper recounts have been performed, all the challenges of pieces of paper have been settled, and all the court cases have been heard and decided, are the end results then digitalised and stored in computer records. Somehow I think someone would notice if those digitalised end results were somehow markedly different from all the paper counts and recounts.

Yes, as I agreed before, corruption and fraud is rife within the system. But it is corruption and fraud performed within the system of paper ballots, not computer records, which only come into existence once all the counting is done and the results are agreed to. In the 2016 federal election in one seat with around 90,000 voters, nearly 7,000 more votes were recorded than there were people to cast them! Investigation established this was mostly down to people voting at more than one booth. In these cases prosecution is almost always impossible.

There will be a federal election for the House of Reps only, on June 19, or June 26, or a full federal election - House of Reps plus half the Senate - five or six weeks later, on August 7. It will be won by the current Liberal/National cabal, not that this matters. After that you can very quickly expect the Cash Restrictions Bill to be passed by the Senate, backdated to 01/01/2020, the Banking Amendment Act 2018 to allow banks to seize savings account deposits, the government to announce the "repurposing" of superannuation funds, and the world to fall apart economically soon after.

Right now the only meaningful things to do that I can think of, is to get at least some of your funds into a trading bank account, and start pushing the idea of marking the sitting member last on the ballot paper, regardless of whether they are Liberal, Labor, or National. At least it will throw a spanner in the works. But I'm open to suggestions. What I do know with absolute bloody certainty to be a complete bloody waste of time and energy, is to go on chasing mythical Chinese "Reds Under The Bed". Right now they are the least of our problems.

In case you haven't noticed, global temperatures are now between three and ten ten degrees below historic averages. The people seeking to control the world as we slip into this climate disaster, know they are running out of time to cement their power.

So the choice is yours - start doing something that might just help to ensure the survival of our children and grandchildren, or continue chasing Chinese Commies who, by and large, couldn't give a stuff about us. They are too busy building coal, oil, gas, hydro and nuclear power stations to survive the coming cold.