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Post by Struth on Dec 15, 2022 15:53:01 GMT 8
Over on Dover's blog the sneerers have called this the psycho blog.
Besides anyone coming here can scroll back and see the main contributers have been spot on the money, we see them all huddle with each other for comfort and safety.
This is freedom Australia and safety has nothing to do with freedom. Are there psychos here? Most likely. Who's to say who is a psycho?
Meanwhile, the groupthink of denialism, the cowardice of conformity is what we see at Dover's blog.
Give me the freedom to be a psycho!!!!
We have way more fun.
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Post by Struth on Dec 18, 2022 12:42:55 GMT 8
Into moderation again at Dover's. "They can't handle the truth"
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Post by Struth on Dec 20, 2022 11:52:28 GMT 8
Still in moderation. Very touchy people there.
some of them now openly saying that it is so hard to know what the truth is. It's fucking hard because you're denying it........ Hint... There is no other truth. It's not my truth. It's not your truth. It's just the truth.
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Post by Chilli on Dec 20, 2022 13:45:54 GMT 8
Dover puts you in moderation, but keeps JC posting freely, I assume. I've only been there once today. JC financially contributes to the blog he once said. Interesting. JC - the most prolific stousher and blog wrecker still allowed to post. Very selective, Dover. I do note sancho poofta panzy aka leigh lowe is not posting prolifically as he use to. His sock is way too busy up choo choo's arse.
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Post by Struth on Dec 21, 2022 6:00:06 GMT 8
I'm still in moderation there. By the time my comment is posted it is that far back no one reads it. Living lies is leftism and brings about left wing behavior. Like silencing unpleasant truths.
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Post by Struth on Dec 22, 2022 5:32:55 GMT 8
Anyone going to Dovers blog will see what putting comments you don't like into moderation gets you You get a few idiots left droning on with Monty. It's boring and utterly useless and a time waste being there.
There is a point to free speech as it exists here. My points made about bird and others also hold true. Unless it incites violence as antisemitism does, for example, no one should be able to decide who says what based on your opinions of the speaker. It is Dovers blog so it is not a free speech sanctuary as it is here and Dover has every right to silence anyone. But go woke go broke. And now look at it's sad and sorry state.
When we get a bit of time to input here the number of views sky rocket. The potential is there and we have seen in the past numbers of views when there have only been three commenters reach about 2/3 the average daily views of Dovers. That true belief in the basics the west was built on holds firm today as ever they did. Bird still turns up at Dovers while Monty is centre stage. Great work Dover.
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Post by Chilli on Dec 22, 2022 13:40:49 GMT 8
I just checked Dover's blog for the first time today. Monty is front and centre with blokes entertaining him. JC doesn't appear to be in moderation, as he responds straight away to others. He'll go off again, but won't cop moderation, just a private email telling him to tone it down and a thank you for donating. Calli is sulking, licking her wounds. Stupid bitch.
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Post by Struth on Dec 22, 2022 14:27:56 GMT 8
You had Calli worked out, chilli.....I hadn't been keeping that close a watch on her. But she has fallen too.
What she said was disgusting and yet no one except for me picked her up on it which also is a sad indictment on many others there.
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Post by Struth on Dec 22, 2022 14:51:19 GMT 8
You had Calli worked out, chilli.....I hadn't been keeping that close a watch on her. But she has fallen too.
What she said was disgusting and yet no one except for me picked her up on it which also is a sad indictment on many others there.
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Post by Struth on Jan 8, 2023 8:24:50 GMT 8
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Post by Struth on Jan 19, 2023 11:34:22 GMT 8
From Geoffrey Tucker at Epoch times.
commentary
The last several years have revealed something we never wanted to believe. Major swaths of the leaders of our public culture—in government, media, and industry—have been lying to us. They had their reasons and certainly believed that their lies were necessary and thus noble. But still we know now what we once suspected but lacked confirmation: the loss of liberty in our times is rooted in core claims that have proven to be untrue.
We could go through the list but you already know the litany: the severity of the virus, the utility of the lockdowns, the functionality of masks, the danger to kids, the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, the impartiality of social media, and so on.
But the really big one is hitting us very hard, namely that this was never really about public health. The officials and agencies that were leading the response were not actually scientists and public health authorities. Deeply embedded agents of the national security state were the real movers and shakers throughout.
There is more than enough evidence now to justify this realization. But more will be coming out over the months and years. We are indeed exhausted by the lies. We are also exhausted from learning the truth about the lies, because of course the elites deny ever having lied in the first place. We are not getting any frank admissions from anyone involved in the great reset. Instead we get ever more dissembling.
Have a look at Leana S. Wen’s column in the Washington Post over the weekend. Her long history was of pushing disease panic, forced masking, vaccine mandates, and the entire battery of COVID controls. Then sometime in the last several months she switched and became the person appointed to gradually reveal truths most of us already knew.
She has now written a piece frankly admitting what we’ve known for almost three years: vast numbers of people who are said to have died from COVID actually died from other causes and only tested positive in a way that allowed the hospital to claim a COVID death.
Her column is revealing, and she is being attacked brutally for it, of course. But what she never admits is that this problem of death misclassification is not new. It goes all the way back to April 2020, when Deborah Birx first mentioned in passing, in a press conference, that everyone who dies with a positive test is being called a COVID death.
“Two infectious-disease experts I spoke with believe that the number of deaths attributed to covid is far greater than the actual number of people dying from covid,” she writes. “If these patients die, covid might get added to their death certificate along with the other diagnoses. But the coronavirus was not the primary contributor to their death and often played no role at all …. To be clear, if the covid death count turns out to be 30 percent of what’s currently reported, that’s still unacceptably high. But that knowledge could help people better gauge the risks of traveling, indoor dining and activities they have yet to resume. Most importantly, knowing who exactly is dying from covid can help us identify who is truly vulnerable. These are the patients we need to protect through better vaccines and treatments.”
It’s interesting that she is throwing out the possibility that only 30 percent of the people who are listed as COVID deaths are actually that. The rest are inflated for reasons having to do with hospital finances and also to keep the general disease panic going. That’s a remarkable estimate. Already the very low case fatality rate of COVID for the general population, which is lower than the estimates of annual flu, is based on accepting all listed COVID deaths as authentic.
If you adjust the numbers for this level of misclassification, we have a very different situation. We must even face the awesome possibility that COVID was far from being the “worst pandemic in 100 years” and might not have been very serious at all beyond the usual waves of respiratory pathogenic infection. It also changes our calculation concerning the causes behind the very high excess deaths of 2021 and 2022. The lockdowns killed more than COVID itself!
Why didn’t Dr. Wen backdate her observations to the beginning of the pandemic? We all know why. The Washington Post is not ready to publish such observations, no matter how true they really are. That will have to wait months or years but we already know where this is headed. We’ve been fooled too much, too often, and we are very aware that most of the claims that drove the shattering of our lives were not true.
Even so, Wen is being slammed, not for the facts of the case but rather for admitting realities that contradict the preferred story. Thus did one commentator chide her: “Thanks, Wen, for contributing to this cluster. And yes, m’dear…the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers now have YOU to quote.”
Many people prefer the lie to the truth simply to keep the political cult together and fully functional.
But what are we to do about this? The great problem with lies is that they leave nothing to fill the gap left by their discovery. We know now that officials, agencies, and media have been dissembling all this time but this is rather unsatisfying, first because they do not admit it and secondly because we have nothing to take the place of the lies. We are only left with loss: mostly a loss of trust but also the loss of narrative to connect us to reality.
The same can be said about the FDA/CDC’s recent recognition that the vaccines are associated with strokes in some elderly people but it’s not so severe that they are changing the policy. It’s a way of admitting a small truth to cover up a bigger truth.
This is what C.J. Hopkins calls a “limited hangout:”
“The way a limited hangout works is, if you’re an intelligence agency, or a global corporation, or a government, or a non-governmental organization, and you have been doing things you need to hide from the public, and those things are starting to come to light such that you can’t just deny that you are doing them anymore, what you do is, you release a limited part of the story to distract people’s attention from the rest of the story. The part you release is the limited hangout. It’s not a lie. It’s just not the whole story. You hang it out so that it will become the whole story, and thus stop people from pursuing the whole story.”
Indeed, if what we have come to suspect concerning vaccine safety is true, there is going to be hell to pay on the part of manufacturers and regulators, not to mention college administrators and other public health agencies that mandated them on the population. This level of betrayal is truly next-level, unlike anything we have seen in our lifetimes.
We are adjusting to the terrible reality that we live in an age of lies. We know now that what they have said and what they are saying is not true. But that realization is oddly unsatisfying because we are left with nothing but an empty space in our understanding: we know what is false but we do not yet know what is true. A major task of the ruling elites today consists of keeping us in the dark.
The question is whether we are going to let them.
Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
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Post by Struth on Jan 20, 2023 6:28:31 GMT 8
It really is so sad. I quickly perused the open thread at Dovers. Due to denialism, you cannot believe how incredibly thick those afflicted are. There was a question asked about who out of the unjabbed have had covid. Remember, the unjabbed can be denialists as well. Lost due to accepting some of the propaganda as truth.
And they natter away.....
AND STILL some report that they've had covid twice due to being tested, although they had no symptoms or had a fucking sniffle we used to call a cold. They are just working out, and only some of them, that the tests might by dodgy. FMD
The realisation that they never had covid, it doesn't exist, it's just communist propaganda renaming the common cold, and they never even had a cold when testing positive...does not let their pea brains work out the test might be dodgy......!!!!!!! Three fucking years later and only a few of them will entertain the idea.
Dick heads all.
Honestly, I'm in disbelief at the level of gutwrenching ignorance and in many cases, determined ignorance of these people.
No wonder I lost my cool with them.
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Post by Struth on Jan 20, 2023 10:11:54 GMT 8
Please tell me where I am wrong.
I see it this way, and to me this is logical.
Nobody has ever had a provable case of covid 19. No one can prove they have had it. If they believe it exists and is a seperate disease from the regular colds and flus....then when they continue trying to work out what really is going on they will always fail. Remember, they desperately want to believe it exists, because how fucking stupid would you be to take the clot shot otherwise? It's symptoms are that of a cold or flu they tell us. Yet the flu disappeared the very minute, the very second, Covid showed up. Insane people put this down to extra hand washing.....seriously. All around the world people were washing their hands even when they weren't, and the flu disappeared for the first time in history. Also remembering it "came from a lab"....did it? Did it?
Theatre.
Here's the bleeding obvious. Nobody releases a deadly virus that they themselves may catch.
Would you?
Brain dead , hysterical morons got tested for covid with tests not designed to show the difference between viruses and those kits are made by communists. On testing cycles set way too high.
Many millions around the world did not realise they were at deaths door, seeing they felt 100% fit and healthy when the test told them otherwise!
If you can't come to the conclusion that it's been a massive fear propaganda campaign, completely silly and illogical, are you not insane? Have you not succumb to emotion...the emotion of fear ...which destroys logical thinking??
When you visit Dover's it is very sad to read.
I can't but help come to the conclusion it's weakness. Weakness and irresponsibility.
Do you not have a duty as an adult to not fold like toilet tissue in the face of lunacy and evil?
Now mass murderers walk free, with platitudes given to them.
Jacinta Ardern is a mass murderer. It is straight forward logic.
Yet at Dover's she is classed as an idiot, a tyrant etc, but nobody dares call her what she is and what every member of our "national Cabinet" is...and that is obviously the truth........a mass murderer. I feel history will actually prove her and her ilk to be genocidal maniacs...in it's true meaning, as they are after the deaths of white westerners above all else...the least compliant people who have known true freedom.
If you offer the jab and dumb bastards take it without being tested fair enough. If you mandate it and threaten people and destroy their lives if they refuse to take it...and like Jacinda, you had already been told it has killed people, then the only logical, correct and truthful conclusion to come to is that she is a MASS MURDERER. And the full tally of her victims may never be known. A genocidal maniac, while upon her retirement from the front lines in Klaus's army against the west, she has many women and beta males fawning all over her.
It's a fucking sick world.
Denialism.
When we rely on those that will not and cannot bring themselves to believe they have been done over with the covid bullshit, to work out Jacinta is a mass murderer, we are being extremely optimistic, are we not?
Three years later, millions are lost to lies. But millions more are not and many are slowly waking up, hence their silence and virtue signalling aggression toward the unjabbed gone...and their take up of the boosters near non existent.
Lefties are tribal and will lie and weasel their way into talking themselves in circles about it, but will not shut up, as the amount of shit they dribble can hinder the truth, and they know it. Others are not so stupid and death and illness focusses the mind.
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Post by Struth on Jan 20, 2023 10:16:45 GMT 8
Now the jabbed are getting sick and dying left right and centre, the doctors are doing a roaring trade. I can't get in to the local quack for a week. Remember the jabbed saying the unjabbed should be refused hospital beds because they refused the jab?
Well now we see who really is clogging up the works.
Those loud mouths who vilified those much smarter than them, and basically wished us death before medical care, are now clogging up the system.
Maybe we need to have someone look at their social media around 2020 - 2021.. to see if they should be allowed medical care.
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