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Post by libertyparty on Feb 11, 2022 17:51:36 GMT 8
For 50 years the Liberal and Labor parties have been taking you backwards. Sounds insane, doesn’t it? And yet it is true. Certainly there have been some advances, welcome and overdue. Women are less unequal than they were. Indigenous Australians are less unrecognised than they were. Pollution is less bad than it was. These and other projects are unfinished and a Liberty Party government will continue this good work and make further gains. Despite this, for decades “your” governments have relentlessly been making life worse for you and your children and your business! Jobs — It’s now harder than ever to get a decent job at all. There’s less on-the-job training by companies, fewer apprenticeships, reliance by employers on certifications and university degrees but no opportunities to get any experience. And when you do land a job, it’s now more likely than ever to be casual or otherwise insecure, with too few hours and too little say over when those hours are. Not to mention, “No jab no job”. Homes — For more and more people, owning a home is simply unaffordable. Meanwhile, renting is skyrocketing as well, and landlords are kicking out good tenants to charge higher rents to new tenants. Health — Waiting times are longer, hospital stays are shorter, staff are forced to be drones acting under instruction from authorities rather than exercising their own judgement. Aged care treats the aged with little respect and dignity. Mental health problems are blowing out. The virus has been handled in pretty much the opposite of how it should have been, transforming a manageable disease situation into a human and financial disaster. Quality of care is down and cost of care is up. Notice how the politicians suffer none of these problems? Politicians say I’m alright mate. They’re well looked after with their jobs-for-the-boys, taxpayer-funded residential allowances and health plans. But politicians think it’s ok for the people to suffer. They permit the problems to get worse while offering platitudes about how the problems are merely part of “progress” and can’t be helped. *
I am John Prohm, leader of the Liberty Party, the only federal political party which actually cares about all Australians. The party was established late last year with the intention of becoming a party of government, in response primarily to the nonsense to which Australians have been subjected for the past two years but also to the damage done to Australians over the past five decades in terms of jobs, home affordability, health and manufacturing. Members of the party hold that all people are created with the obligation to refrain from interfering with other people and a reciprocal right to be reasonably free from interference; they’re created with the obligation to respect the land and hold it in trust; and they are sovereign over the government to which they grant certain powers. These Principles are set out in full at Liberty Party Principles , being section 2 of the party’s Constitution. From the principles flow the party’s written Objectives. Mainly, these involve improving the political and social culture which have long been deteriorating. Australians would benefit from truth, transparency and accountability in government, corporate media and large organisations; efficiency in tax collection; frugality in public spending; encouragement for manufacturers and growers; elimination of regulations and associated costs which do not benefit the public; actual education for children; neighbourliness; respect for land and indigenous Australian peoples; and the treating of the interests of Australians as the highest priority in decision-making. These Objectives are set out in full at Liberty Party Objectives , being section 3 of the party’s Constitution. Perhaps not surprisingly, the party’s election policies flow from the Objectives and Principles. Thus the Liberty Party has a coherent philosophical foundation and policy platform. The policies are at Liberty Party Policies . I believe there is a fair chance of a hung parliament at this year’s federal election so a coherent party holding several seats could easily hold the balance of power in the House of Representatives. More importantly, however, a party that wins 6–10 seats would likely force a hung parliament. A party in this position would possess considerable leverage and the Liberty Party aims to be that party. If you are fired up or fed up, please make contact and help make it happen. We are actively recruiting party members and people to stand as quality candidates for the Senate and the House of Representatives in the federal election in May or earlier. I believe it’s time for an end to all the rubbish we’ve had to put up with.
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Post by yyyguy on Feb 12, 2022 13:23:03 GMT 8
Forget the ideals. Smaller parties need to campaign on state charges and levies. Halve vehicle registration, speeding fines $1 for every km/h over the limit, no MPs get paid or get their pension if they don't balance the budget. There are endless "fines" and such that serve only to criminalise the population and increase state revenue. And public servants who fail - sack them.
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Post by Just me on Feb 12, 2022 14:18:21 GMT 8
Sometimes I think I must be living on another planet.
The country is being run by a millionaire Microsoft senior executive who is quietly closing down the internet to "extremists" who object to anything, the population is being killed off with an airborne variant of AIDS, legislation already exists to allow the banks to seize peoples' savings, laws came into effect yesterday basically seizing everybody's superannuation and replacing it with a pension, real inflation is running at around 15% plus, reducing most people to poverty, banks are about to start jacking up interest rates bankrupting homebuyers who were sucked into paying inflated prices, the planners are ready to collapse the stock market, legislation is also ready to make us a cashless society with a social credit scheme and a UBI, troops and police with automatic weapons are patrolling our streets, travel restrictions are in force everywhere, internment gulags have been built for people who object, most of our politicians are corrupt and in on the act one way or another, and we are three months away from what will probably be our last election that is anything like "free and fair".
And that's just for starters.
Meanwhile we've got somebody new here starting a political party because they reckon rents are too high, and a regular who wants to fight the election on speeding fines.
We are fvcked.
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Post by Struth on Feb 12, 2022 22:59:32 GMT 8
Nice to promote your liberty party but today in Australia there are only a few smaller parties in with any chance anywhere. Lib dems one nation and UAP. So support them this election. Also concerned why I should respect a certain race above another in your manifesto.
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 13, 2022 6:58:55 GMT 8
starting a political party because they reckon rents are too high This is so obviously an egregious misrepresentation of the post, let's just deem it satire and drop it. Some of the things you mention are covered explicitly in our principles and objectives, and most of the rest are covered implicitly. Just the statement that people grant certain powers to the government has enormous implications. But if you want to get elected, you can't go around attacking everyone on day one and making enemies of them all. You have to be a little more strategic than that, frustrating though it might be to some. We are attacking past governments.
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 13, 2022 7:05:16 GMT 8
Nice to promote your liberty party but today in Australia there are only a few smaller parties in with any chance anywhere. Lib dems one nation and UAP. So support them this election. Also concerned why I should respect a certain race above another in your manifesto. Every party in history started small. Our platform is one that a very large number of Australians can hop on once they know it exists. UAP has no Constitution, or at least none that they're willing to publish nor supply on request. Lib dems principles are "wrong" shall we say. I don't follow your "why I should respect a certain race above another in your manifesto", sorry. Can you elaborate?
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Post by Just me on Feb 13, 2022 9:11:50 GMT 8
"let's just deem it satire and drop it."
Fair enough, Jack. I'll drop it.
I wish you and Kristi all the best in your impending deaths. If you can, opt for the Pfizer HIV treatment, Paxlovid. It won't keep you alive any longer (three years) than the other HIV treatments that will be offered (Remsdivir and Molnupiravir), but has less nasty adverse side effects. May as well be comfortable as you are being exterminated. I don't think Julie will mind whichever one you choose. She has share options in all three. As long as you die and die quietly, that's the main thing for her.
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Post by Struth on Feb 15, 2022 9:11:55 GMT 8
I don't follow your "why I should respect a certain race above another in your manifesto", sorry. Can you elaborate?
This is in your manifesto. "respect for land and indigenous Australian peoples";
Sorry, but I'm not a racist, I'm an individualist. I respect people based on who they are as an individual, not what race or collectivist group you want to put them in.
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Post by Just me on Feb 15, 2022 11:36:05 GMT 8
Jack, Struth - Guys, could we just let a little bit of reality encroach here.
Parliament rises in two days, on Thursday 17 February 2022, and does not sit again until Tuesday, 29 March 2022, six weeks from today. On that date, Tuesday 29 March 2022, the Federal Budget will be presented. The Opposition (Labor) will exercise its Right of Reply on Thursday, 31 March 2022. Immediately after that Parliament will rise and the PM will go to the GG and request Parliament be dissolved and a Federal Election called for 7, 14 or 21 May 2022. These dates are set in stone.
Given that three public holidays occur early in the election period (Easter and Anzac Day), Saturday May 14, or Saturday May 21 are the most likely. That's twelve weeks from this coming Saturday. That means you guys have got twelve weeks from this Saturday to get your acts together. After that it's all over Red Rover.
Under the circumstances don't you think we could be doing something a little more productive than debating the meaning of "racism" and the legal standing of Aboriginals, which was settled legally thirty years ago?
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 15, 2022 14:28:19 GMT 8
"I'm an individualist. I respect people based on who they are as an individual, not what race or" other group they might belong to.
All of these words apply to me and to us the members of the party. That much needs to be said and made clear.
I would've said more (about this not being incompatible with "respect for land and indigenous Australian peoples") if not for the comment by Just Me. Instead I will drop it. But thank you to Struth for elaborating. At least now I know where you're coming from.
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Post by Just me on Feb 15, 2022 16:27:14 GMT 8
"Memory Vault is just fucking painful."
Yeah. Reality can be like that. Not that you'd know anything about reality Bird, living in cuckoo land as you do.
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Post by Just me on Feb 15, 2022 16:32:01 GMT 8
"I'm an individualist."
No, Jack. Having read through your policies, you are a Friedmanarian.
That being the case, you are on the wrong forum. Ask Struth which Cat JC is posting on now. You can keep each other company.
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 15, 2022 18:53:49 GMT 8
Are you referring to Milton Friedman? If so, you have some strange ideas. How about you say what the words individualist and Friedmanarian mean to you. I suspect we're using different meanings.
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Post by Just me on Feb 16, 2022 11:55:12 GMT 8
Hello Jack - I'm assuming you're Jack Prohm in the website photo, along with your Lovely Lady Kristi.
My apologies for the delay in replying. These days I only have bad days and worse days, and the last couple have been at the very bottom end. But the Codeine is finally starting to kick in, so maybe I'll get in a period of relative clarity. My apologies also for my churlish manner. I've been at this now for over thirty years, and watching good people like you keep reinventing the wheel - a broken wheel at that - can get depressing. Especially now that the bad guys are about to win, once and for all.
I will reply at length after I have had a coffee or two. But not here which is best left open for current topics as they come up. I have my own cave down a bit - "Peter Sawyer aka Memory Vault aka Memory Fault" - I will reply down there. If you're going to stick around maybe Struth can be coaxed into giving you your own thread - the other freedom loving parties have them.
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Post by Struth on Feb 16, 2022 13:25:42 GMT 8
I'm tryin to trim down these threads at best. I didn't give myself, MV, or anyone else their own thread. When we get to thousands of visits we can worry about that stuff!!
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