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Post by yyyguy on Feb 8, 2022 12:08:30 GMT 8
on convoys in Canada and Canberra and to a lesser extent, local demonstrations. I admire what people are doing and the strength of the resisters. But if you get to your destination, then what? Dr Flying Duk getting arrested. Gummint sabotage by cutting off fuel supplies. The might of the state on display and using citizens as de facto forces. When the tow truck companies refused to cooperate (in Canada) in towing away the trucks the powers that be simply changed tack and went after fuel and food. Still lots to play for but I can't see the winning hand. As with all protests here in Oz the powers simply wait and then resume course and all we hear is the whining about the latest ridiculous public health order while they continue on their merry way. The psychology of these people is about winning. Not reconsideration of their course or amelioration or retraction and if it isn't coordinated in national cabinet then I'm a monkey' uncle. So many variations and changes just to fark with people' heads. It's about winning. When the trucks and the people leave as they inevitably will have to, empty-handed, they have achieved what? A win for the other side. It's about winning. You cannot leave having put up a good fight or getting your point across, you have to win or they will. And to anyone who is holding out any hope for the next election to change things, same bus, same destination, different driver. Big men with big balls with big trucks with big bullbars. That's what's gonna win.
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Post by guest on Feb 8, 2022 18:38:28 GMT 8
"Big men with big balls with big trucks with big bullbars. That's what's gonna win."
Hope you are right, doubt it but. One section of the community, spec. if they annoy the rest is not enough against the forces the state can apply.
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Post by Struth on Feb 9, 2022 7:28:40 GMT 8
In my view it is a process. The convoys will not win freedom for us, but it is just part of fighting back. It really does help. They won't, by themselves, take us back to 2019 freedom, of course not. Nothing seems more hopeless and stupid on first glance than to head off to a nation's capital in the middle of Bumfuck NSW, where the Australian government have one, buried themselves in a hill type bunker of a parliament house making it such that any protest there, if not broadcast by media, effects no one in Canberra and is basically out of sight, out of mind. Look, Australia's government, like it's Parliament building is bunkered, and tactically harder to attack than a parliament sitting right in the middle of a city, like Westminster or Washington. Hence they had to fence of the capitol in Washington and bring in the troops. Australian government smuggly says .....let them burn themselves out....on the lawns away from view and not reported. Not a business put out, in fact they'd be making money without needing to deal with the source of the imported spenders waving Aussie flags.
Yet it is a start. And it's peaceful. And history will show that it was peaceful and the government could have listened and addressed the nations concern but didn't. It's been peaceful against their murderous behaviour for two years so far. We must, for history's sake, for what is to follow, show that without doubt, the government decided against peace. It decided to go to war against it's own people. These protests let Australians see clearly, what they are up against in exactly the same way as the Canadians now know what they are up against. There can be no denying it, and claiming this is about a virus anymore. The propaganda is failing and the once free western world is now being shown that resistance is futile. That's what these protests prove and why they are necessary . They expose the truth to the people. The terrible reality is brought into the light.
You can't fight these bastards when you are still so brainwashed as to believe they are bringing in severe digital tyrannical government to save you from the sniffles. This is being shown clearly today, and future fighters must be sure of being on the right side of history.
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Post by yyyguy on Feb 9, 2022 10:29:26 GMT 8
I see Dr Duk has refused the bail conditions and opted to remain incarcerated. I like his stance and wish more people would act similarly (hats off to Monica). However, Dr D will now have a criminal record and that has to be declared to AHPRA which can jeopardise his ability to practice medicine. I suspect they'll be well aware of him already and, going against the Convid narrative, will be preparing to do their worst. If he's in the fortunate position of being old enough and rich enough to be able to survive hereon, all good and well. Younger health workers aren't. I suspect the situation is absolutely dire in aged care facilities what with the army being called in to provide care. I did a few shifts in aged care some time ago and it was dire back then. Residents are on so many pills just to keep them going all I did was go from one medication round to the next. The average worker is an unskilled import with basic English and a week or two of training and while they work very hard, it's just a job, often their second or third and there's no common understanding of the people who built modern Oz. Any Covid protocols must make it even harder for them (but it may be better than life in their homeland). Chatting to an old friend in SA yesterday, son with physical and mental handicaps but the nicest nature - "before the NDIS he had lots of lovely carers, Australians, they understood him and his ways and just accepted who and what he was. Now he can't understand the black people in masks who are his carers". He's been interviewed by the cops twice (mental age 5) for accusations of sexual harrassment. He gives his peers hugs every day and after "education sessions" to the other similarly slow residents, they report what he's done, paperwork is filed and off to the police it goes. No gallows is too high or low for the likes of Stuart Robert.
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Post by yyyguy on Feb 10, 2022 12:14:29 GMT 8
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Post by Just me on Feb 10, 2022 13:30:51 GMT 8
Thanks very much for your latest post, yyguy. I had not heard of Dr Paix before.
Could I be so bold as to suggest you repost it as its own new subject on the Open Thread, rather than have it buried here on an existing one? It is far too important to be sitting down here. As a separate post others can then add what actions they are taking to spread the word. For instance, as soon as I finish here I will be drafting something for the Cairns News, and my local federal member, Terry Young (Liberal, Longman). The Change.org petition is pointless. It is gloves off time.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 11, 2022 18:08:00 GMT 8
yyyguy, the solution is to change the law. Easier said than done, certainly.
You and others may well be interested in the thread I created in the Open Thread.
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Post by libertyparty on Feb 11, 2022 18:15:28 GMT 8
"They won't, by themselves, take us back to 2019 freedom, of course not." And just as well The last thing we want is to go back to 2019 "freedom" which many have discovered was a kabuki-style freedom. The thing we want, or I want, is to go forward to a 2022/2023 freedom that is genuine. It will take a generation or two to bed in fully because we need for children to grow up in a free environment. Some of the adults getting around today are brainwashed, plainly.
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