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Post by NFA on Jul 4, 2022 7:48:28 GMT 8
And for more yuk yuks I won a first prize in HSC Economics and went on and studied it at RMIT.
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Post by NFA on Jul 4, 2022 19:44:22 GMT 8
All the paragraphs.....all the bullshit one has to write because they can't percieve a small government world. There is nothing wrong with corporations when tax money and corruptible government is unavailable to them. Nothing. Governments make the mess as soon as they gain any control of anything. Sorry...but if you haven't learned that with years with your nose in books reading what other cretins like yourself have written you are a fucking useless moron. And StruthYou actually do not need a corporation as such when there is a legal structure called a Limited Liability Partnership (LLP) which in Australia is only registerable in South Australia and Tasmania. Once registered you can operate anywhere.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 8, 2022 17:47:06 GMT 8
"All the paragraphs.....all the bullshit one has to write because they can't percieve a small government world. There is nothing wrong with corporations when tax money and corruptible government is unavailable to them. Nothing."
Here we have a statement that may even be true, and yet at the same time its dishonest and besides the point. Because once you have the fractional reserve usury cartel, and big corporations, then they will control the government, and they will see to it that they are subsidised and assisted. So you start with a competitive market and you wind up with all these pampered welfare queens.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 8, 2022 17:52:27 GMT 8
Once we get to that stage there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop these welfare queens looting the treasury and the banking system. And we have SEEN THIS. This is not a prediction its an observation. I didn't see how this would spin out of control, but now its spun out of control, intellectually speaking, its a done deal. You should not be going with ideas that are already proven wrong. So that nexus was too dangerous the entire time. And now its spun out of control to such an extent that they are trying to murder all the kids with fake vaccine poisons. If that isn't empirical evidence that your ideas have been proven wrong I just don't know what would be.l
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Post by Struth on Jul 9, 2022 5:43:37 GMT 8
Simply, you cannot conceive small government. If a business or corporation finds influencing government an attractive proposition than the government is too big or has become unaccountable or both.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 9, 2022 7:57:23 GMT 8
No you just lying. I can conceive of small government. I support shrinking government and a small government is the one I want. Your basing your non-argument on an outright lie. Virtually all governments prior to the hydrocarbon and democratic age were small governments. So what does it even MEAN this ridiculous accusation of yours? What you can possibly mean. To accuse a history buff of not being able to conceive of a small government is insane.
Address the actual arguments you dim bulb. Now I have asked you many times to stop being an idiot, but you keep doubling down.
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Post by Struth on Jul 10, 2022 6:28:26 GMT 8
One man can be total government and in control of everything, or a thousand in charge of nothing.
Accountability and law making duties only. Nothing else. No government "departments".......no taxation,.....get your mind back to basics. A parliament of reps debating law and that's it. The only government needed.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 10, 2022 8:10:15 GMT 8
No taxation is an insane suggestion. And obviously so. Could Russia deliver 60 000 artillery rounds a day without any taxation at all? Obviously not so they would perish and the mass murderers who are currently killing our children would start killing their children also. And steal all their stuff, through the financial system or directly. So you are being an idiot. So stop being an idiot, and talk sensibly. You were caught out being an idiot and you are doubling down.
So the government would need to own stuff and then charge the private sector for it, or tax. Those two options exhaust the money raising capacity. But also we need rail transport and more of it. More more more more more. While producer goods accumulation may be the fastest way to create wealth, since wealth creation leads to the lengthening of the structure of production, the main sticking point is the lack of cheap transport between factories. Private rail is just a gift to the deep state. And private roads, rail and canals would lock us up and enslave us.
So stop being an idiot and talk sensibly. Be quits with the libertarian baby talk.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 10, 2022 8:15:27 GMT 8
See you can't really be this stupid. So one has to assume you are a closet traitor like Ari. One has to assume that you are actually angling for a capitulation to the deep state. And will glory under deep state leadership.
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Post by NFA on Jul 10, 2022 10:09:58 GMT 8
I had such high hopes for you Joachim but you dogged it. I am the one that proposed zero taxation. And Struth is far from an idiot like you. Australia is an island continent. What need of government shit like you lapdogs believe. Defense would be easy. Go and talk to Just Crap (JC) at dovers place because you are now pushing the wire.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 10, 2022 10:16:27 GMT 8
Its a stupid idea. But you keep doubling down on it. If you are saying that you want the government to own assets and get its revenues that way say that. If you are saying that you think we need an Australian crisis, like the Russians had in the 90's, so we can come back stronger thirty years later like they did, then make that argument. Otherwise you are being incoherent.
If you are saying we ought to cantonise and secede with such alacrity that one day we may figure out how to get by without government services in an anarcho-capitalist Hoppean sense then try to make that argument. But since you aren't trying on any of these arguments you guys are just being unnecessarily idiotic.
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Post by NFA on Jul 10, 2022 10:21:59 GMT 8
Bird Nest
I am saying ZERO TAXATION
I am saying NO CENTRALISED GOVERNMENT.
Fucking scary eh!
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Post by NFA on Jul 10, 2022 10:28:52 GMT 8
And STOP imposing your limited book learning thoughts on real people. check out freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/2553/dogs-biteSri Lanka is dissolving because of smart arse government. Go and tell them what they should do and kindly stop dragging YOUR CATALLAXION idiocy here.
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Post by Struth on Jul 10, 2022 11:24:19 GMT 8
Bird has always been a collectivist. Therefore his socialist mind cannot conceive of small government.
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Post by Joachim Of Fiore on Jul 10, 2022 12:32:09 GMT 8
"Fucking scary eh!" No no its not the least bit scary. Its you being an idiot. Unless you are going with one of the arguments I've already outlined. Try and see how Lee Kwan Yew could have survived with this thinking? They are so strong now, and they have been able to stop people from taking over with only the resources of a city-state. This during a time when the communists were on the move in their region. But you've got no answers for that.
"Bird has always been a collectivist."
No no. Its got nothing to do with that. Its just about you two being moronic cunts thats all it is. Its not a problem with me. Its a problem with you. Not even Hoppe would take the kind of fantasy approach that you two are taking. He would want at first a lot more Leichtensteins. A lot more Singapores. And we would work out a defense policy through the route of secession.
Its not about me do you understand? Its just about you guys being idiots and NOTHING ELSE.
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